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passed already, with those rates and john boehner responded. >> the senate has already passed a law like this. democrats in the house are ready to pass a law like this and i hope republicans in the house come on board, too. we should not hold the middle class hostage while we debate tax cuts for the wealthy. >> i think in stead of the house moving on the senate bill, the senate ought to move on the house bill. >> so the debate has been engaged. it's going to be an interesting conversation on friday to get it started. >> that's right. he'll have the senate leaders and house leaders over to talk about this. one of the things that was so clear from that press conference was that the president is saying let's move this forward, let's move this forward now. he is certainly realizing that when you look at the four years that he has ahead of him, really it about the next 18 months to two years. that's when he has a mandate that, when he has political capital to spend. quickly he also wants to forestall some of these tax hikes that could come as early as january. john boehner initially said, lis
's chief negotiating adversary right now, speaker john boehner who was re-elected by house republicans yesterday said they're not ready to accept the president's proposal because it would, quote, hurt our economy and make jobs more difficult. but he also sounded the kumbaya theme. >> now, i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week, from myself and my team. from democrats across the aisle. from the president. have created an atmosphere where i think that, i remain optimistic. >> folks, there are a lot closer than sometime the bravadoish headlines seem to make clear. this is really about what can boehner take to 50 to 100 house republicans who are willing to temporarily potentially raise some tax rates on some group of wealthier americans? >>> by the way, after $6 billion spent on house senate and presidential campaign, not only did party control not change for the house, senate and white house. but the individual leaders who will begin the negotiations tomorrow, it's the exact group of people. there are some personnel changes but not on that leadership
. they weren't fighting for the top jobs. that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burt
boehner has a big task ahead of him. can the house speaker pull the gop together and try to make a deal with the president on the fiscal cliff as jay leno was talking about. should he? should a deal be made? a fair and balanced debate is coming up. lots of talk how the united states will eventually be world's top oil producer. that is what some say. there are questions why it is taking so long. those stories and breaking news all "happening now." jenna: well, it is a little unbelievable, but there is lot of twists and turns in this scandal we've been following so closely surrounding former cia chief and now others. hi, everybody. glad to have you with us. i'm jenna lee. rick: happy tuesday. i'm rick folbaum in for jon. controversy over the timeline of events over the petraeus investigation with members of congress wanting to know why the fbi didn't notify them and the white house until just recently when it began months ago. that investigation far from over. fbi searching the home of petraeus's alleged mistress, paula broadwell. after david petraeus resigned his post as america's top sp
they will or will not go on this issue. house speaker john boehner says he believes they can reach a deal. >> i don't think anyone, on either side of the aisle under estimates the difficulty that faces us. but i do think the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week from myself and my team, from democrats across the aisle, from the president, have created an atmosphere where i think that, i'm, i remain optimistic. i was born with a glass half-full. >> what i have told leaders privately as well as publicly, is that we can not afford to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. what we can do is make sure that middle class taxes don't go up. 98% of americans are not going to see their taxes go up. 97% of small businesses are not going to see their taxes go up. if we get that in place, we are actually removing half of the fiscal cliff. martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehn
connell, who's the senate minority leader, he's taking a tougher stand than even boehner. let's listen to both of those positions. >> let's be clear. an opening bid of $1.6 trillion in new taxes just isn't serious. it's more than simpson/bowles or any other bipartisan commission has called for. it's been unanimously rejected in the house and senate. it's twice as much as the white house agreed to last summer during the debt ceiling talks, and looked at in the context of the spending cuts yet to be implemented, it amounts to about 20 cents in cuts for every new dollar in tax hikes. in other words, no cuts at all. it's a joke. a joke. >> we right away say 98% of americans are not going to see their taxes go up. 97% of small businesses are not going to see their taxes go up. if we get that in place, we are actually removing half of the fiscal cliff. half of the danger to our economy is removed by that single step. >> okay. so is it a joke, or as the democrats would say, the math isn't adding up? let's look at the issue of deficit reduction. the democrats say the -- let's say if you cut loopholes
heard from speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell on their position because they will all be here at the white house on friday to get these talks kick started. melissa: thank you so much. lori: estevez houston with a news conference, president obama will be sitting down with a ceos to talk about solutions to avoid the fiscal cliff. rich edson in washington as well the latest developments. >> good afternoon. wrapping in the 2:00 hour, leaves the east room, here to the west wing where he will meet with about a dozen ceos, half of whom are part of the export counselor, jobs council, or they are very familiar with the white house, in particular this white house. the discussion is of the opening offer on taxes, $1.6 trillion in tax increases, most of that tax increases on rate and deductions for those earning more than $250,000 per year. republicans wanted an overhaul of the entire tax system and create revenue through an overhaul of the tax code mostly by getting rid of deductions. saying no to higher rates. that is the risk the treasury secretary shot down. >> there's a lot of magica
of congress. republicans john boehner and mitch mcconnell and democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. >> we had a very constructive meeting with the president to talk about america's fiscal problem. >> we all know something has to be done. >> it was good. i feel confident that a solution may be in sight. >> we're prepared to put revenue on the table, provided we fix the real problem. >> tax hikes and spending cuts could go into effect simultaneously if no deal is reached on the fiscal cliff by the end of the year, both sides have said they are willing to compromise. house speaker boehner says republicans realize that neither side will get everything it wants. >>> exactly one week after he abruptly resigned as head of the cia, david petraeus was back on capitol hill. he met yesterday behind closed doors to brief lawmakers on the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. according to lawmakers who were there, petraeus now says the attack was an act of terrorism and not the result of a spontaneous anti-western demonstration as initially reported. four americans died in the benghazi
that siri has to offer me. >> stephanie: i think dictionary.com backs me up on john boehner. >> there are pronunciations i've had to look up. i don't know everything off the top of my head. >> she knows how to pronounce myanmar. >> i know how to use the googles, too. >> stephanie: all right. here she is with all of her fancy, highfalutin words. >> paul ryan lost on the national ticket but won back his seat in congress. he will be back at the table of negotiations continuing over tax increases and spending cuts. paul ryan will continue to head up the house budget committee and john boehner expects him to help as the two parties try to come to a compromise that would stave off the fiscal cliff generate revenue and reduce the deficit. the hope is that ryan can help bring around fellow conservatives. as senator patty murray points out to the "new york times," ryan will have to be willing to listen and compromise if he's going to stick to his former budget proposals, it will be a long winter. americans just vote
are already digging in their heels. speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation. sh
rejected the mitt romney, john boehner solution for tax reform. >> what i will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says we're going to sort of, kind of raise revenue through dynamic scoring or closing loopholes that have not been identified. and the reason i won't do that is because i don't want to find ourselves in a position six months from now or a year from now, where lo and behold, the only way to close the deficit is to sock it to middle class families. >> now, that is the classiest way i have ever seen anybody say, you know what, somebody's got to pick up the bar tab, boys. this is what president obama ran against in the presidential election. mitt romney's approach to tax reform was, trust me. the american public wanted specifics. and president obama continued to give specifics today, but the economy wasn't the only thing on the president's mind today. earlier in the day, here's another development. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice came under fire from republican senators. senators john mccain and lindsey graham, back at it, trying to trump up the ambassador
-- john boehner can turn around-- they man a bit chastened right now, but 235 house republicans were also re-elected, so i don't know why the-- why the washington environment is a whole l different. >> the other thing the president said was i'm not up for reelection again. so they look ahead, they see 2010 and think if taxes do go up for the middle class, it will be john boehner, and the republicans to take the blame. >> well, that may be but who is it going to play that kind of bluffing game with the debt ceiling because that's when you really risk tremendous market reactions and peril. i know you talked about david petraeus, and the whole foreign policy issue last night on charlie, martha, but do you-- t me ask you again, do you take seriously the notion that john kerry could be defense secretary? >> i think that was a trial balloon. >> you do? >> i 19, clearly both of those stories were trial balloons. president obama, obviously, took it a little further, quite a bit further today talking about susan rice. it was no longer a trial balloon. but i think john kerry-- you know, is that a c
of that party up there. >>> next, john boehner was re-elected yesterday for a second term as speaker of the house but georgia congressman louis go mert, a charter member of the birther crowd had a different candidate in mind. who do you think he nominated? newt gingrich for speaker right now. you don't technically actually have to be a house member to be speaker of the house, but it's been the rule historically. by the way, boehner's word to go mert after the word, louie, i love you, too. after the election, we heard certain ceos were threatening to fire employees if president obama wob the election. some are going through with it. bobt murray, ceo of the coal company laid off 156 employees the day after the election. john schneider ceo the papa john's pizza says he will be cutting employee hours to avoid costs associated with obama care. finally, john met, ceo of several denny's franchises says he will add a 5% surcharge to customers' bills to offset the cost of obama care. you don't want to pay extra, he said tip the server less to offset the cost. what a sweetheart. >>> up next, n
budget. the congress has a copy of it. i do think it would be helpful if speaker boehner would spell out his approach to revenue. he has said some positive things, but we have not seen any substance to his proposals and his remarks. so i think that would be helpful to get that out in the public as we move forward. >> what about the fact that people like jeff sessions who is a ranking member on the budget committee is asking that efforts be made to have these negotiations open to the american public so they can see what's going on? >> as i said, i think the ideas that are all exchanged as part of this process should be open to the public and the president was very clear as to what his revenue proposal is. it's on the super net. you can actually go see it. speaker boehner has said he's open to raising revenue. he has not told us or the american public exactly how he would do it. so i do think it would be useful if he would spell it out, then we would have two clear proposals on the table to compare. >> well, it's going to be a long negotiation, it seems, tough negotiation to work things th
for that and don't want it and, two, can john boehner rally a republicans who doesn't want to raise taxes? to that end it's unbelievable. the election was only 13 days ago. >> i know. >> there's been a lot of piling on mitt romney in those 13 days. i want to play something tea party republican senator had to say. this was at the federalist society about the election. let's play it. >> inevitably there are these mandarins in politics who give the voice don't show any contrast. don't rock the boat. so by the third debate, i'm pretty certain mitt romney actually french kissed barack obama. >> okay, let's put aside that image. >> yes. >> this suggests that, you know, these are the manndarins of politics, don't show any contrast, don't rock the boat,s so you have the ted cruzs of the world coming in and the boehners saying we node to caught deal on this, reform on immigration, talk about gay marriage. we need a reformation within the party. is that what the base of the party wants? and if they don't want that, if ted cruz is the voice for that party, how do you get there? >> well, the base doe
speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world. >> national journal reports wisconsin congressman and former vp hopeful paul ryan will remain house budget committee chairman after being granted a gop waiver to avoid being term limited out of that spot. >>> senate majority leader harry reid lashed out at massachusetts senator scott brown mocking brown's calls for bipartisanship as a joke, describing brown as one of the most partisan senators ever to serve. >>> we now know which political office may be sought by another member of the bush family, george p. bush. his father, former florida governor jeb bush, confirms in a letter to potential donors that his son
to be that much wiggle room, speaker boehner sounded a bit optimistic. >> i've outlined a framework for how both parties can work together to avert the fiscal cliff, without raising tax rates. >> a few have looked closely at what the president have had to say, looked closely at what i have to say. there are no barriers here to sitting down and beginning to work through this process. >> the president says that he is open to any ideas, good ideas, from republicans, to get revenue. he said that he will not slam the door in their faces, but still taking that tough stand, that he will not extend those bush-era tax cuts for wealthy americans. we also saw the president take a strong stand, as you pointed out, in defending his ambassador, ambassador susan rice. the president realizing that she's been coming under attack from republicans, in particular, senator john mccain, who's been going after her, because of the narrative that she told shortly after those benghazi attacks. senator mccain saying that he just wants to get all the facts, suggesting that the white house has not been transparent. the pres
standing next to john boehner? >> and mitch mcconnell -- >> and mitch mcconnell by the way. right. >> the president is in a different position now. re-elected by a pretty impressive margin than he was the last time he tried to forge a deal that collapsed. >> right. that was the debt ceiling. he had a real problem with that with the grand bargain. he also had after the 2010 midterms when he had a lame duck session of congress and he had to give on keeping the tax cuts for the wealthy. this is a president right now who believes he's got some leverage. he got re-elected. and these are republicans who are trying to figure out just who they are andy ds sun the president's press conference earlier this week, he's somebody who studied the flaws of a e d i make some progress without overreaching. it's very clear they're worried at the white house about doing some overreach here. if he can get a fiscal deal done, that will be very, very important for his legacy in the long-term. and he knows it. >> are the republicans operating from the same game plan? >> no. i think they're not. i mean,
in washington. to see harry reid and mitch mcconnell and john boehner actually standing together there in the driveway is a very rare feat. and i'm not going to get out there and say happy days are here again. >> okay. what i do want to ask you about, dana, this confederacy of takers article you wrote about how president obama's opponents have come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. there's a large number of patriotic americans mostly from states won by mitt romney who have petitioned the white house to let hem secede. you're saying let them for one big reason. >> well, yes. i'd hate to lose these states because our country has 50 states for a good reason and we like our fellow americans. but strictly as a budgetary matter, if you look at the states that supported mitt rom if i, a lot of those states that want out of the union whether in the south, some in the plains and the mountain states, these are the ones that take far more in federal spending than they give tax dollars. so if you similply lop them off the union we would have a far more prosperous nation. but we'd have
boehner appears, they say are you willing to accept higher rates. no one says what are you going to do about entitlements or anything, there's no question of the president whether he will compromise and what that would look like. >> paul: steve, what do you think the republicans ought to do here? is there a way out for them or are they going to be pushed back into a corner where they have no choice, but to concede that they have to raise tax rates or else go over the cliff and get blamed for that? >> well, it's a tough situation for them. there's no question about it because as you know, the default position, if we don't do anything is for the taxes to go up on everybody on january 1st, and that's something i think both sides want to avoid. it's very interesting, the thing that happened this week to start the week, was who was the first person that barack obama met with in the white house since his election, the labor unions, the labor block, that tells a lot who is driving policy at least at the start of the second term? and the labor unions basically said we want no compromise on thi
speaker john boehner has balked at that idea. it would take away most of his party's leverage in fiscal cliff negotiations. >> there are a lot of issues on the table that have to be resolved by the end of the year, and i think i've laid out a reasonable framework where both parties can work together, and i'm looking forward to going down to the white house on friday and beginning that conversation. >> reporter: bainer and other top republicans have proposed eliminating deductions and loopholes that benefit the wealthy instead raising their tax rates. >> we are not going to hurt our economy and make job creation more difl which is exactly what that plan would do. >> reporter: today the president argued closing loopholes alone won't be enough to cut the deficit. he'll have that argument face to face with wayne or friday. one of the most frequent criticisms we've heard over the past few years from members on both sides if you haven't done enough to reach out and build relationships. are there concrete ways you plan to approach your relationships with congress in the second term? >> look, i
to tax cuts for the wealthy. that puts her at odds with john boehner. >> could you accept a deal that does not include tax rate increases for the wealthy? we've seen talk about a possible compromise that would leave rates the same but tax deductions for high income earners. is that something that's acceptable? >> no. >> not at all. >> the president made it clear in his campaign that there are not enough resources. what you described is a formula and a blueprint for hampering a future. you cannot go forward -- you have to cut some investments. if you cut too many, you are hampering growth, you are hampering education and investments in the future. >> even thousands of miles away it appears president obama is still focused on negotiations. while touring a royal monastery with secretary of state clinton the president was overheard mentioning the budget talks to a monk. the president later clarified his comments at a news conference. >> i always believe in prayer. i believe in prayer when i go to church back home and if a buddhist monk is wishing me well, i'm going to take whatever g
.6 trillion of new revenue. boehner had agreed to $800 billion. it's not hard to find $1.2 trillion as a kind of middle ground to that. then you want to have $4 trillion of total deficit reduction, so that leaves $2.8 trillion of spending reductions that have to happen. here's what people miss. we can avoid going over the cliff with the stroke of a pen. they can just extend all this stuff and kick the can down the road. the real question is are we going to have a big deal? are we going to agree on the major spending restraints that we need as well as the tax stuff in order to actually get the deficit under control? and i think the betting on that is less than 50%. i think we have a great shot at it. but it's going to be really, really hard. >> is that the view from wall street, too? they're not totally confident that this is going to happen? >> what you see in the stock market at the moment is that wall street is not totally confident. that's for sure. >> all right. steve, thanks so much. >> pleasure. >>> coming up, independent senator-elect of maine, angus king joins the conversation. he's a
. visit studentcam.org. >> house speaker john boehner on his party leadership election followed by democratic leader nancy pelosi. then senators of both parties on their leadership elections. later republican senators john mccain, nancy gramm, and others call for the investigation on the attacks of the u.s. consulate in libya. the senate armed services committee holds a hearing tomorrow morning on the nomination of marine corps general joseph dunford. that is live on c-span 3 at 9:30 eastern. general dunford is assistant commandant of the marine corps. now house speaker john gainer on his party's leadership election and the agenda for the lame duck session of congress. top priority which is jobs. i'm proud of my leadership caucus who are going to serve. and while some of us who are returning to the leadership, we have new members and you will get to hear from them in a moment. our majority is the primary line of defense for the american people against a government that spends too much, borrows too much when left unchecked. i have outlined a framework for how both parties can wor
bipartisan spirit. [ mumbling like boehner ] >> stephanie: we're going to make job creation more difficult. really? you're just going to continue with the same talking point? the job rates. >> the job creators-- [ mumbling ] >> stephanie: weren't those tax cuts supposed to expire two years ago? >> stephanie: yes, yes. >> that's too quick for them. >> stephanie: well yeah the president obviously gave in the last time. he said at the time this was an one-time thing. and as you recall he did it at the time because he was--it was over, you know, unemployment. you remember, it was right before christmas and they were going to cut off yeah, any way. economists from both parties say that a return to the recession is likely unless they compromise on the legislation. obama said everybody's taxes will go up including those who when make make less, and as an alternative. i don't know why they don't do this. he suggested paying legislation immediately to pre-event tax hike on everybody's income. >> that would make sense. >> stephanie: a measure that has already passed the senate. and he said we should
as the middle class does not get hurt. house speaker john boehner seems optimistic about these negotiations. >> we can all imagine a scenario where we go off the fiscal cliff. if, if despite the election, if despite the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff and what that means for our economy that there's too much stubbornness in congress that we can't even agree on giving middle class family as tax cut, then, middle class families will all end up having a big tax hike. >> there are no barriers here to sitting down and beginning to work through this process. i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulty that faces us. but i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you have seen over the last week from myself and my team, from democrats across the aisle, from the president, have created an atmosphere where i think that, i'm, remain optimistic. i was born with a glass half-full. if i hadn't been i sure wouldn't be here. jon: so let's get to it. how close are we to the edge of that fiscal cliff? marjorie clifton, a former consultant to the obama campaign a
handshake and some backslapping between president obama and speaker boehner. are we about to see a breakthrough? and the big interview on the big question. who changed the cia's talking points on the benghazi terror attacks? our exclusive interview with peking coming ahead. and residents in israel running for their lives as rockets rained down from gaza and elsewhere. we are live next megyn: we are getting more video from israeli news services showing men, women and children taking shelter as hamas continues a series of rocket attacks. welcome, i'm megyn kelly. we have breaking news. we received reports that israel is taking steps to mobilize potentially 75,000 reserve troops for a possible ground invasion of gaza. palestinian militants ramping up their assault, launching rockets against israel's busiest cities including tel aviv and for the first time in decades, targeting jerusalem. air raid sirens warned of imminent danger. israel payed to strike -- poised to strike back in a big way and ready to invade if the order is given. lelan vittert is live on the border. >> reporter: a
? there are several hundred republicans and then after that awkward moment passed, they voted for boehner. he won overwhelmingly and got a standing ovation. louis, get in there. get in the middle of the ring you dumb ass. that's tyt elbow of the day on louis gohmert for not requesting that a guy who is not in congress might not be the best choice for speaker of the house. what an unbelievable doofus. that's the show for tonight. we'll see you tomorrow.
interest and openness to putting in place a deal, both from president obama and leader boehner, and a number of members of congress. >> an aide to senator majority leader harry reid told fox news, the democrats are open to various tax loopholes only if the republicans agree first to raise taxes on those making $250,000 or higher. sound familiar, chris. >> does a bit. thanks from the white house. president obama won reelection on a promise to raise taxes on high earners as a plan to raise our massive debt. republicans say they agree with the goal, but want to do it a different way than the president. jim angle tonight on their alternative. >> president obama wants to take money from wealthy taxpayers, republicans say they're willing to raise revenues, but not tax rates. and that leaves ample middle ground that could satisfy both, putting a cap on the amount of deductions any one person could claim, such as $50,000. >> that means the maximum number of deductions you can take is $50,000, you can take it for anything you want, but you can't take more than 50,000. >> the tax policy
on that. if speaker boehner can deliver 25, 30 votes, we'd supply the rest of them. there's an easy and quick answer to that. the rest of it, the amt, the farm bill, there are many tax issues besides just the income tax rate we have to resolve, too. i worry about the estate tax done and other ones done if we can, and then push the other matters to next year. >> thank you so much for your time. we greatly appreciate it. talk with you soon, hopefully. thank you. >> thank you. >> the first read team reports there's a sense in the white house they need a cease-fire negotiation in the middle east asap. it could come down to a test of the new egyptian government. nbc's deputy political editor mark murray will join us live. plus, new jersey governor chris christie, you might say he stole the show on "snl." >> you have been wearing that fleece a lot. >> yaeshgs it's basically fused to my skin at this point. >> we'll have more. it's one of the things we thought you should know. >>> welcome back. president obama now on the last leg of his unprecedented trip to southeast asia. the president we
the talks and house speaker john boehner suggested the parties could reach broad agreement on revenue targets and savings from entitlement reforms to avoid the immediate budget cuts. the leaders said they would meet again after thanksgiving. all right, congressman mather, before we get to this political question, because i think the political question is really important. i think some of the stuff we saw in the election year really was the product of election year dynamics. and in a positive way. >> that's why we have elections. >> that's exactly right. people say that's politics. that's also known as democracy. that's also known as accountability. there's nothing wrong with it, right? before we get to the politics of that, and george i want to bring you in on that question, substantively, where do you want, what do you want to see? i mean if you're to say jerry mather, i make you emperor of america for -- for -- or emperor of these negotiations and you get to like sign the document and that's what we get, what is the end point you would like to see? >> the end point i would like to s
boehner. i mean they are the most important players as to whether we get a result. secondly, i've said from day one, i've been saying it for two years, the most important piece of this, andrea, really is medicare because as you look at glen hubbard, as you look at others talking about all these things, the two are intertwined. in other words, as we see true medicare reforms and you see a real solution to medicare, where people know that we've put this behind us and we've dealt with it, i think you see the dial change as it relates to revenue. so, you know, i've been discussing revenues now for at least two years. i do think republicans are open to revenues that are put in place and a pro growth way, but i think people want to see that we've actually dealt with the problem. we haven't generated more revenues without solving the fundamental problems we have and we have what we want to do is put ourselves on a path towards fiscal solvency. i think the key here really is, medicare and to the extent you dial that up and solve it, i think you also dial the other dial which is revenues and i
a tax increase. if speaker boehner says i'll go along with that, that's where we'll start. i think e converti is under way for a solution. >> ifill: senator durban, are you kicking the can down the road by only talking about the tax ruts and not talking about the spending cuts as well? >> let me tell you something, i was on the bowles simpson commission, i voted for it, bipartisan commission that included spending cuts as well as revenue increases. i know that to reach four or five trillion dollars in deficit reduction you need to put everything on the table. not just taxes for the wealthy. that's an important piece of it, but it isn't all of it. you ed much mor >> the president said today in his news conference that he was very familiar with the literature on the overreach of presidents in their second term or their potential for overreach. do you think that's a possibility here? do you see that? we have heard, for instance, republicans say, hey, we can talk about immigration now. is it possible that some things actually are in reach? >> oh, i do think -- i think immigration reform
. the congressional leaders, boehner, reid, pelosi, mcconnell, were optimistic but cautious about a deal. >> to show our seriousness we have put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we should have a goal in terms of how much deficit reduction. we should have a deadline before christmas. we should show some milestones of success so that confidence can build. >> we're prepared to put revenue on the table provided we fix the real problem. >> the real problem. you got that? mcconditional is all the tree stump on the lawn when you're trying to cut it. this afternoon the president held his fourth and final meetings with stakeholders, civic leaders and meshs of civic leaders. mark morel is president of the you are began league and aaron smith is co-funder of a group called noninvincibles dedicated to ensuring that young people's perspectives are accounted for in policy and economic opportunity, education, and health
. >> there is agreement all around that boehner wants a deal. the speaker wants a deal, but he cannot sell a deal, even with the goodwill that he thinks he and the president have on that right now, unless there is real graham ruddman type, real requirements, that these things go in simultaneously. and that's what jim baker wrote about recently, who's had that experience, of fashioning exactly that kind of deal. >> it's important, though, that -- >> you have to cut spending in the future. >> you can raise taxes with one congress. but it takes five congresses to cut spending. >> it's important to keep the focus on growth. not taxes, not spending cuts. you know, the goal here is to get our growth from, you know, one plus percent, up to three and four percent. if we don't get growth going, none of this will matter at all. it's really important as the president frames this that he frames it as growth, and therefore i need this tax increase for these people. this kind of spending cuts here. because it will leverage this kind of growth. >> but that's new spending. that's what the president talks about, john,
and you see speaker boehner clearly wants a deal and, perhaps, has more leverage now with the house republican caucus, but once you get down to the actual negotiations, there are some very tough issues here, a reason this has not been resolved in previous summits. >> that's right but i am optimistic there was a clear mandate, the mandate was for solving our problems. i'm encouraged at no labels.org, an organization that has about 600,000 people, is putting together a group of 40 members of congress evenly split between democrats and republicans who are agreeing to come together as a problem solver's caucus, that the leadership can go to and cut deals on these important problems like the fiscal cliff, education. we have members of congress that recognize that people want them to be problem solvers and work across the aisle. we'll be announcing these 40 members in short order and that represents the kind of mood we're seeing in the shift in congress. >> let me ask you both about mitt romney's post-election comments last wednesday, be in a telephone conference call with donors. many of
the looming budget crisis in washington. house speaker john boehner says republicans want to cooperate but not by raising taxes. >> here we go again. president obama addressed the crisis rather and other challenges he faces in his first post-victory news conference. abc's karen travers is joining us from washington with more. hi, karen. >> reporter: good morning, rob. good morning, paula. white house officials say they were expecting the president to get tough questions and yesterday he got them on a wide range of issues. in his first press conference in eight months, president obama said the american people knew what they were getting when they re-elected him. and his takeaway from last week's results -- >> i have got a mandate to help middle-class families. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff and mandatory spending cuts and tax increases is looming at the end of the year. >> i want a big deal. i want a comprehensive deal. >> reporter: the preside reiterated he is not backing down from the campaign pledge. >> a modest tax increase on the wealthy is not going to break their backs. they'll st
comments made by john boehner who argued against any tax hikes as part of the deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >> instead of raising tax rates on the american people, the damage it would do to our economy, let's start to solve the problem. this focus on tax reform, close special interest loopholes, and lower tax rates. instead of accepting arbitrary cuts that will endanger our national defense, let's get serious about shoring up the entitlement programs that are the primary drivers of our country's massive growing debt. >> sarah anderson, your response? >> it is crazy to be talking about, as he said, shoring up in time of programs. that is just washington speak for reducing the cost of these programs and limiting access. to think we need to shift the burden onto the backs of the poor and elderly is crazy, when we are in one of the richest countries -- the richest country in the world. our problem is our resources have been misallocated. the approach to the debt should be to look at the ways that we could raise revenue through fair taxation, including tax and financial tran
that john boehner reportedly offered him when they were trying to avoid the fiscal cliff last summer. one wonders whether, given that he just re-won the white house -- the president thinks he's in a better position to convince john boehner? reporter: well, it will be interesting to see. there has been talk that he might start on the campaign trail again. he might hold rallies after thanksgiving. saying that we need to war money from the people that make a higher income. this is back in august of 2011, part of the debt deal negotiations. that is what blew up those talks. the idea of 1.6 billion -- things will change. but as of right now, that would be an absolute nonstarter among senators on capitol hill. megyn: these republicans, many of them were reelected. i am to say that they have a mandate from their constituents to keep doing what they have been doing. particularly in not raising taxes, which is such a thorny issue over the past few years. notwithstanding the fact that when you survey the majority of americans, they want to see taxes go up on the rich. the question is whether the r
connell and john boehner's people sort of drawing their lines in the sand. that's not really happening even though that is sort of by far much sort of bigger story as far as what's going to happen in the country. as far as -- and priority list for both the white house and congress. >> do you think they also get that at the white house? that as long as -- as much as they may be getting hurt or not by the islamist people are talking about benghazi, it enables some room for the white house to get involved in the negotiations as well. >> it allows them to negotiate this without sort of a spotlight on fiscal cliff story which is -- you know, a story that has about six weeks left in it before some -- before taxes go up on everyone and significant spending cuts happen across the country. not just the military. >> you've been covering the hill for awhile in addition to the campaigns. do you get the sense that this will be the time when they say okay, they've reached some agreement on the tax out on the revenue side and republicans eat i
leaders to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner and mcconnel and nancy pelosi and harry reed reed. without a deal billions of tax increases go into affect january 1st. and those are your head lines. i would like to be a fly on the wall for that meeting. >> brian: there is shock waves across the markets. coming in way above expectations, remember that explanation. hurricane sandy's fault. everyone gets fired when a hurricane hits? what kind of logic is that. >> a crash scene with a baby girl trapped in the twisted metal. but you haven't seen the hero that jumped inside to save her, he's coming up this hour. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. it's a new way to get cash back deals, and it's called bankamerideals! i sign into my online banking... click the "cash back deals tab"... and pick the deals i want. i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay,
and overspending problem and not an under taxing problem. we heard from speaker john boehner. he said that revenue is on the table. the issue here is that president obama has said he wants to increase tax rates on wealthy americans. the speaker and house republicans are still not on board with increasing tax rates, although perhaps closing some loopholes to raise some revenue, and even though there's a lot of kind of kumbaya going on here, suzanne, there's still a lot of tough work that needs to be done. they're still maybe punting on some of the important issues like tax reform and entitlement reform, but they'll be dealing with the fiscal cliff here in the near term. >> it's probably difficult to tell, but we see these pictures, and it's very common, right? you get about 30 seconds to see them all in a room together. they're patting each other on the back, smiling, and shaking hands, that kind of thick. do we have any sense of whether or not there were any different kind of tone or language when they were meeting behind closed doors that gives us a sense that maybe this is real? >> you know, i t
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